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Jim B. Tucker, M.D., a board-certified child psychiatrist, directs research into children’s reports of past-life memories at the University of Virginia Division of Perceptual Studies. Dr. Tucker is Assistant Professor of Psychiatric Medicine at the University of Virginia Health System, and he serves as medical director of the Child & Family Psychiatry Clinic. Dr. Tucker is the author of the book "Life Before Life: A Scientific Investigation of Children's Memories of Previous Lives."

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Sunday, August 06, 2006

Praying For Positive Results

A study of intercessory prayer that came out this spring received a lot of attention. Published in the American Heart Journal by a group led by Dr. Herbert Benson of Harvard University, this large study looked at whether patients undergoing coronary artery bypass graft surgery prayed for by church prayer groups did better than patients not prayed for by the groups. They did not.

This followed a large study published in the Lancet last year that also got negative results. Dr. Mitchell Krucoff and associates of Duke University examined whether either prayer or music, imagery, and touch (MIT) therapy would help patients undergoing heart procedures. Neither significantly improved the patients’ outcomes.

These studies come after others that have shown positive results for conditions such as heart disease and AIDS using either prayer or various techniques of distant healing, in which one person attempts to improve the health of another person some distance away. A review in the Annals of Internal Medicine found that out of 23 studies, 13 showed statistically significant treatment effects, which is far above what we would expect by chance. Nonetheless, the two recent large, well-done studies cast doubt on this line of inquiry as a whole.

There are a couple of reasons why we would expect researchers to have trouble getting positive results in prayer studies, even if prayer is effective. The first is that because of the need for double-blind conditions as well the need to maintain patient confidentiality, those praying have had no contact with the patients. In the Benson study, the prayer groups were given the first name of the patients and the first initial of their last names, and this is typical of these studies. This makes me wonder how intense the prayers can be when those doing the praying have no emotional connection to the patients. If we believe in prayer, would we expect the effects of someone praying for a stranger known only by a first name and an initial to be the same as that of patients or their loved ones praying for help?

This brings us to the second reason why getting consistently positive results could be difficult. The researchers can’t tell patients not to pray for their own health, and they can’t tell family members and friends not to pray for them either. The researchers just have to hope that the prayer by the study participants will add to the patient and family prayer enough so that the results will be significant. Unfortunately, the intense patient and family prayer, which can’t be controlled for in the studies, may well be much more powerful than the prayers of strangers, so it’s not surprising that studies would get negative results.

It has occurred to me that one way to avoid both of these problems would be to study owners praying for their pets undergoing a veterinary procedure. The placebo effect wouldn’t be an issue since the pets presumably wouldn’t know what their owners were doing, so it would be fine to have the owners, the people who love the animals the most, be the ones praying while the pets were undergoing the procedure. And there would be no worry about the prayer of patients confounding the results since the patients—the pets—would be unlikely to pray.

That study has never been done as far as I know, but a lot of studies have examined the effect that mental intention can have on other living organisms, looking at, for instance, rates of plant growth, growth of tumors in animals, growth of yeasts and bacteria, etc. This area is called DMILS—Direct Mental Intention with Living Systems. At last count (one done by Dr. Daniel Benor), out of 191 controlled studies that had been done, 124 had produced significantly positive results.

Given this, we certainly have reason to think that mental intention can have effects. I personally believe that prayer can have effects as well. I also think that proving those effects by getting consistent results in studies of people saying prayers for strangers may not be possible.

11 Comments:

Blogger Annalisa Ventola said...

I just stumbled on this blog. It's good to see more academics taking advantage of this technology. I hope to see more posts in the future!

1:15 AM  
Blogger Tom239 said...

You say "The placebo effect wouldn't be an issue since the pets presumably wouldn't know what their owners were doing." I disagree. If the owner feels he/she is doing something possibly beneficial for their pet, that could affect the owner's mood, and the pet could sense that. This is the essence of why the "double" in "double-blind" is necessary for valid testing; knowledge on the part of the experimenter can be passed on in non-verbal ways.

12:25 PM  
Blogger AJ said...

Just bought your book Dr. Tucker, hope it is as good as the reviews!

Respectfully to Tom-

I agree wholeheartedly with your statement: "knowledge on the part of the experimenter can be passed on in non-verbal ways."

That is why I believe the jury is still out on (the genetics of) diseases like Alcoholism- was it passed down physically or emotionally or both?
But I gotta tell you that 'hoping' your newborn son is your paternal/maternal grandpa is a stretch to explain the findings they have come upon. This give evidence that things are not quite up to par with the 'Church's' teachings. Not a small issue.

7:37 AM  
Blogger Jim B. Tucker said...

Tom, you're right about the pets and their owners, but that's certainly different from the usual placebo effect in which patients get better because they think the sugar pill they are taking will make them better.

And aj, I hope you've enjoyed the book!

1:40 PM  
Blogger AJ said...

Yes Dr. Tucker, I actually have just started reading it-fascinating!
May I ask what your professional take on hypnosis past life regression therapy is?
It is exciting that we have such a forward thinking university in our fair state of Virginia!
Must have been tough with the Falwell and Robertson crowd hanging around...

8:40 PM  
Blogger Jim B. Tucker said...

aj,

I talk about hypnotic regression some in the book. Hypnosis, unfortunately, is an unreliable tool, whether for memories of this life or a past one. It can produce some amazing hits but a lot of fantasy as well. There may well be some regression cases that involve valid memories, but most probably do not. Ian Stevenson wrote a column about this that is on our website at UVA:
http://www.healthsystem.virginia.edu/internet/personalitystudies/regression.cfm

5:17 PM  
Blogger AJ said...

Dr. Tucker,

Thanks for your response concerning your opinion on hypnosis-I had not read that far!
One question that nags at me is the issue of children remembering points in their past life, often relagated to emotional memories-nothing about intelligence that was incurred for the years they lived, or a sitituation where they would be able to 'think' logically higher than their(real time) years, futher giving proof that they retained idioms of the former personality.Have you encountered anything like that?
One last thing. In your book your team installs devices in the hospital operating room for NDE proofs experiences.
I have just been diagnosed with renal carcinoma and they say they will have to take out the kidney that is effected with an 8cm tumor. My doctor is Jose E. Gonzales, MD Urology of Virginia Chesapeake Health Care Systems.This just came up, we should meet with him early next week concerning surgery. I understand this is a major operaton. Aside from being scarred to death (no pun intended), it might be a good chance for you to do some experiments. Just a thought.And, wish me luck!

9:38 AM  
Blogger Jim B. Tucker said...

AJ,

Parents in our cases often say that the children seem very mature or adult-like. They also tend to be very bright and verbal, which one could argue might be due to their carrying over skills from the previous life.

I'm sorry to hear about your illness; I hope everything goes well for you. The study with the laptops near the ceiling was in the cardiac electrophysiology lab, where doctors put patients in potentially fatal heart arrythmias in order to test the defibrillators they've just implanted. I certainly hope you don't get close enough to death during your surgery to experience an NDE. Good luck.

12:46 PM  
Blogger . said...

I let a comment in other topic about the reincarnation probabilities in Rio and about visibility of kardec books in front of librarie entrance.

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10:40 AM  
Blogger Unknown said...

Hi Dr. Tucker, I have searched for your contact infomation and have been unable to find a way outside of this blog to give you a message.

I have memories that may be of interest to you. I am not sure if you are looking for case studies or not, but I am happy to share my story for whatever it is worth.
I basically remember before my birth, my birth and as a child of 2/3 I communicated with a male presence.
These experiances have been with me my entire life and I am unsure what I am supposed to do with them (if anything)?
If you are interested in hearing my story please let me know the best way of contacting you.
Thank you,
April

10:09 AM  

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